Please keep my daughter Lisa in your thoughts. Her baby was due yesterday and she was getting pains last night, so it looks as if the birth might be soon. Thanks.

Olga

Hi Olg!

Seems like you dont need those ten days then ;o)

Good luck to Lisa and her baby! That kids gonna be spoilt rotten by her grandma! :o)

And I bet he/she becomes a Kinks fan :o))))

Carrie

Olga-

I will definitely keep your daughter and her baby in my thoughts and prayers!

-Leslie

You can count on me, too, Olga

Claudia

I whish you, your daughter and the new little Kinks fan the best!!!

~Randy~

Olga, I'll keep Lisa and her baby in my prayers.

~*Megs*~

I will, too!

K

Olga, hope Lisa and co are fab gear - keep us
posted, as i'm sure we're all dying to hear the
news asap!

Ellie

Olga, I am sure all will go well and Lisa will find out what a strong person she really is! :> Keep us posted.

Marianne

Crossing my fingers! And tired of waiting...

Raf

Olga,

All the best to you, Lisa, family, and of course the little baby being brought into this world.

Bruce

Olga, remember the cod liver oil! LOL...I swear, it works like a charm. Tell Lisa to stay near the loo, though.

;-)

Loving thoughts and wishes to you all. God bless.

Ellen
xox

Thanks all of you, the good wishes mean a lot. We rushed off to the hospital at 8.30pm and returned home at 12.30am as nothing much was happening down below (although backache and contractions were painful). She's better off at home. The baby objected being to Lisa being strapped to a monitor as it would move so its heartbeats weren't registering on the screen. This little one certainly has a mind of its own....Lisa is going to have her work cut out with this baby. She's giving her boyfriend, Simon, some stick I can tell you! LOL!

If it arrives today (hopefully) we can all say "May the Fourth be with you"!!!!!!! :-)

Yes, I'll remember the cod liver oil, Ellen. Revolting stuff, but if it does the trick....

Olga

Best wishes for all of you!

David Schimpf

Best of luck to Mom and Baby.
ps: Spicey food works sometimes too. So does oxytocin (OW).

Baby girl born at 3.44am, Monday 5th May. 6lb 14oz. Lisa had to have a C section in the end. She had an awful pregnancy and birth, so let's hope the worst is behind her now. The baby has lots of dark hair and doesn't lok particularly like anyone! :-) (I am really not grandmother material!!! LOL!)

Does anyone know of any homeopathic remedies specfically for dealing with C sections? I can't find anything in my books. I'm giving her Rescue Remedy and will go onto other Bach Flowers in due course, and am giving her vitamin and mineral supplements. (Ye olde witch woman!!! :-)

Thank you for your love and support, I was thinking of you all in the long hours of the night when there seemed to be one problem after another.

love

Olga

Ahhhhh congrats to Lisa and everyone!

Have they decided on a name yet?

Congratulations!!
I had a beautiful baby on May 5th, 1981. A wonderful son and a great jazz musician and future teacher. Unfortunately, never heard of the Kinks but wonderful just the same

Congratulations, Olga and family!

David S.

That is wonderful news!!! I think she will love having a little girl--I did. Happy Cinco de Mayo & Congratulations! (To you too Denise!lol) That's what we call it here in southern CAlif....(near the Mexican border).
I'd continue with the Res.Remedy. To me, that's is the best all around homeopathic medicine I know. Good for a new mother too. Don't let her get up and run around until she's recovered.

mUcH LoVe,
Barbara

I am guessing at the moment , but I think she has Pisces rising and moon in Gemini ( a talker)...born 14 degrees Taurus conjuncting mercury...( she will be a good communicator)
Venus in Aries and Mars in Aquarius ...

Congrats from Kim and I, Olga!

C-sections aren't fun, but if she keeps moving as much as tolerable, and has grandma helping with lifting, she'll be fine. ;-)

Blessings to you all.

Love,
Ellen

Congrats!!!

Bruce

"Grandma"? who's that????

:-)

I will pass on your messages. Thanks again...Happy Birthday to your son, Denise!!! Thanks for the astrological info Barbara..She's definitely a 5 - 5/5/2003

I think her name will be Eleanor...shortened to Ellie! (I did drop some Kinkian names into the melting pot, but they weren't taken up!! pah!).

Olga

YAY! Another poor sod who's ending up with
my name! ;o)

Nah, i'm quite proud of my name now, but I
hated it when I was younger - it's lovely to
know that my older sister Louise chose it for
me!

Congrats Lisa, Olg and co! Hope everyone is
a little more stable now, and Ellie is starting to
realise what a lucky person she is to have
"chosen" her family! :o)

(I feel schizophrenic now! LOL)

Ellie (t'other one...) xxx

Olga-

Congratulations! You'll have to post a picture of this beautiful little lady.

-Leslie

Congrats Olga! What great news. The best advice I can give your daughter is try to get back to being mobile, but don't stress about anything other than getting to know her new baby girl. I know with our first I was desperately trying to keep up with the laundry, cooking, letters, etc. until I got sick and had to slow down!

I remember thinking when we first saw Evan that he looked like no one in the family...in fact, with his black hair and jaundiced newborn skin and squinty eyes, he looked more like a mini Charles Bronson! Well, you've met him, he looks quite handsome now!

You will be a wonderful Grandma! Enjoy!

Marianne

Dearest Olga,
Congrats to Lisa, baby (for making it into the world!), and you!
Arnica, taken internally (it can also be topical) works really well to heal both cuts and bruising. Most places that stock homeopathic remedies will have it. I also swear by Rescue Remedy!
Much Love, Light, and Joy to you all,
Luna and Aidan

I know it is the "western way" to get back into action as quickly as possible, but in the far east tradition, it has always been very very important to rest completly and thoroughly after giving birth...giving all internal organs a chance to go back into their original placement (hence staying off ones feet a lot, for some time) Pregnancy takes a huge toll on the body. Women convalesced for 6 weeks to 3 months or longer, staying nearly bedridden... while family members did household chores for her etc... this might be esp. important for a cessarian birth, I would think. (of course that doesn't mean to lay completley still, but it means don't do heavy housework, or lifting, don't workout, don't do strenuous activity) This tradition of far eastern medicine is not known in the west, and probably sounds appalling to the western mind set, but it has to do with healing the woman's internal energy slowly after giving birth. It is very important to do this to preserve one's health and (chi)energy etc. In the west of course, everything is the opposite of the east, and it seems that its important to hurry hurry and get moving, ..but this is a very wise ancient practice, I think, and this is why I recommend it. I didn't take this advice, and I got sick and weak and my health broke down. I'm not saying this will happen to every woman , but there is something to this advice , and I wish I'd taken it.

But she's young, and she'll bounce back nicely I'm sure, regardless..

Yes Luna, arnica, I've been trying to think of it all day. Very good for internal/external bruising and that all over sore feeling.

Congratulations, Olga! Eleanor is a lovely name.

Post a picture of her?

Becky

The film's in the camera!!! Argh!! I've not wanted to flash too much cos Lisa's been really grotty and
I didn't want to upset the infant. Lisa's been dosed up to the eyeballs with Arnica...I got her to take it from last Sunday (thank heavens!) She was also on Squawroot, which hopefully toned up her internal organs a bit (sorry blokes!!! LOL!!!)I'm glad there are other avid users of Arnica out there as well as the Rescue Remedy.

She really can't do anything for herself at the moment. Getting out of bed is a mammoth task, and girls, you can remember what going to the toilet for the first time was like! (Sorry again, blokes!!)

She was very weepy today, and her boyfriend was up at the hospital for about eight hours to keep her company. Ellie (baby) was a right cow last night, and wouldn't settle, but now Lisa is off the tubes and things, hopefully she will sleep better tonight. The food in there is appalling, one has to go in with emergency rations and Red Cross parcels...

Ellie (the other one)...I loathed my name when I was little. I wanted to be called "Pussy Cat"?! Yes, right! :-)

Now, I have every reason to be eccentric!!!!

Olga of the Olgarchy

Enjoy The Bull tomorra or whenever it is..I've lost track of time.

Lisa and Ellie came home today (a day early) - due I'm sure to the Arnica and Rescue Remedy! The fun starts now as their bedroom is next to mine! :-)

Olga

Olga,
Congratulations on the newest addition to your family!
Chat

A heartfelt congratulation to both you and Lisa.

I'm sorry that I became wordless when I learned about Lisa's conditon. All that I went through a little more than 8 years ago went through my mind but after I read that she is home and safe I gave a sigh of reliefe.

My best regards to all 3 of you. I hope and wish for the best,

Claudia

And Barbara, here is information for you:

I tried to look up a special word in the dictionary but without luck. The word is "barselspotte" and is a Danish fenomenon. It is a earthenware pot with a lid and a handle to keep food in. When a woman had a baby the neighboring women would come over with food for the family so the mother would not have to get up. She was supposed to stay in bed or at lest not do much work but to tend and care for her new baby for several weeks after having given birth. Now this tradition has a long history and even my mother was presented with a "barselspotte" when I was born. And we have 1 (ONE) year of maternity leave in this country. Well, it is optional but the first 6 months are not. You can share it with the father, though.

Now with your story I'm no longer sure if Denmark is part of the Western World. He he he.... ;->

Claudia

P.S.: I think there have been regional differenses in how to behave after having given birth to a child in all of Europe. And there have been changes forth and back through time. It has also depended on social status and wealth in the country in general.

Very interesting Claudia. I think it must have been a common, common sense practice in every culture in days gone by, but with the advent of modern life, these traditions have gotten lost and /or lost their meaning.

I agree, Barbara. My boss, at the age of 41, was scheduled to have a c-section (2nd child) and we were there working together until 7:00 at night the night before her operation. 2 days later, she was on the phone with me. One week later, and I was bringing paperwork to her home. Now, she is exhausted and looks terrible, the baby is colicky. I think everyone should slow down, especially new mothers, but they don't. I also think babies should stay home and not be in crowds. I see newborns in stores with all the people with germs(sorry, it's true) and I feel so sorry for those babies.
Denise

Barbara and Denise: Oh, yes! I guess with the industrialisation we forgot the purpose of this time of resting for the mother.

Denise, your boss seems to be a very good example.

Now it was only yesterday that I heard on the radio that experts urge the parents NOT to send their beloved babies to daycare institutions before they were at least one year old.

Reason: The children in public day care institutions get a lot more illnesses than those staying at home. And there is a bigger risk of cronical illnesses like asthmatic bronchitis.

So a good advise could be: for the sake of yourself as a woman and mother: stay home the first 6 months and take good care of yourself and your baby and for the sake of the child stay home an additional 6 months!

But who will listen to common sense?

Claudia

Claudia and Denise,I agree. Nothing's more important than taking time and care of yourself and your new baby at this time. Everyone should slow down.

And another pet peeve of mine...mothers and fathers who sign their kids up for endless after-school, extra-curicular activities. Drives me crazy!!! Kids should go home, eat, go outside and play for a while, do a little homework, watch tv or listen to music or read and un-wind...and go to bed early. Kids are waaaaay too hyped up, way to anxious, and pushed way too hard etc... Very bad, not healthy.

And another pet peeve...too much homework, and too much home work that involves parent participation. That really made me mad. Teachers who think that parents don't have enough to do , that they must also sit down at night and do hours of homework with their kids. Talk about delegating their jobs to someone else...There was always at least one (fanatical) teacher who I wrote a long letter too and chewed out at the end of the school year...all the way thru my daughters school days. God, I'm so glad those days are over. Parents should not put up with that.